NL-Outsidethebox [confederation]

This is a comment I made to Sharon in PEI over on http://www.freenewfoundlandlabrador.blogspot.com/ in which she reposted Mr Watsons reply to Mr Higgins blog “What motivates seal hunt protest groups?”

I think we can all agree on one thing. According to Mr Watson's comments Canada DFO has dropped the ball and left NL and the seals out to hang at the expense of trade concessions to the foreign draggers.

I commend the SeasShepard society and its members for trying to stop the Foreign Trawler Dragger clear cutting of the ocean bottom, by experimenting with net rippers. But I seriously doubt this had any effect out in the vast ocean of Newfoundland and Labrador. What with the technology availably to these draggers. We can only hope though!

I think you would find NL'ians very receptive to stopping the foreign over fishing and destructive fishing of our coast. I'm willing to bet they would even put the seal Harvest on hold until the cod stocks could be better managed or a better way of harvesting a sustainable seal harvest could be found.Could you imagine the media coverage, fund raising possibilities if NL'ians and the SeaShepard foundation united to stop foreign over fishing and the destruction of ocean bottom!Now this would take alot of eating humble pie and putting the interests of the ecology of the Grand Banks and the planet first and Foremost IMHO.

More humane harvest?
I'm thinking Electric stun guns then lifted aboard a factory Slaughter house ship for processing and proper killing practices according to accepted industry standards already practiced in slaughter houses. No wastage and easier to monitor. Hilti guns shoot nail directly into brain of seals.

Please don't correct my comments Mr Watson like you found so necessary to do to Mr Higgins because you couldn't find any better argument. It just detracts from the issue and makes you look juvenile.

School teacher or animal activist, make up your mind?

Update:
How about some form of fork to pin the head of the seal with a third pin that shoots out directly into the brain?

This would remove the very gross swinging of the halapik to kill the animals? Protestor friendly killing practice.

It's all about disconnecting the act of killing from the actual killing.

I also suggested using chokers like used in logging to haul the either dead or unconscious seals onto a factory slaughter house/ship for humane slaughter house killing practices.

I received an email from a sealer saying that he didn't think this was feasible because the seals flippers were to small and pulling the seal against the grain of its fur would be to hard. I think he had a mind set though and wasn't willing to entertain new ideas and practices. I didn't mean a man would pull the seal but rather a winch set up should be used because adult seals weigh a couple of hundred pounds and pulling that on the ice by hand wouldn't be feasible anyway. Which is why I imagine they only take the skins and leave the carcass to rot.

I had another thought on the against the fur grain problem. Use a hook set up similar to a fishing hook and hook it into the seals mouth, this would eliminate the against the grain problem but the weight issue is still there for a manual labour set up.

A winch for a ATV only costs 100-200$ and could be used to pull several seal carcasses at a time with a off shoot of several leads set up.

This would also be an easier way of harvesting for the sealer and safer because each sealer would always have a life line.


Sealers could and should use crampons ice pik boots to harvest the entire seal. These crampons would allow the sealers to pull the larger seals and eliminate the need to leave the carcass because of weight and traction problems.
http://www.icespiders.com/

It is the only way within the system we have right now, to make your voice and concerns be heard above the party line.

Slogan:
Divided as independents the people stand, United as partisan politics the people fall!

Start a group, organization, coalition, or party if you will to support independents. Similar to a co-op unsure about the co-op fees issue partisan and sponsorship issues? (Sponsorship pun intended)

Statement of intent!
-Municipal politics principles and format.
-Everybody votes independently in the House of Commons.
-Leader is chosen voted on from among the elected independents by the elected independents.
-Could even go one further and have municipal electees voted amongst them selves to represent province or federal?
-If possible a common set of base goals and policies. This may not be appropriate detract from the independent spirit?

Shared objectives and campaigning practices
-Centralized Fund raising
-Centralized list of candidates, emails, Ph numbers, Web pages
-Help Enlist candidates
-Enlist volunteers to help independents
-Sharing of thoughts and ideas discussion to hone campaign platforms
-Internet fund raising centralized and accountable with all books open and published online.
-Dissemination of funds according to number of constituents or possibility of election?
-Bulk advertising cheaper.
-Centralized head quarters for all candidates.
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Access to either small or major markets of the world can be gain by using Ebay.

-Dehydrated berries.
-Jams
-Knitting
-Moose antlers
-Moose hunting trips
-Fishing trips
-Fossils
-Smoked fish (use old kitchen stoves cut a hole from the main oven part into the bottom drawer put a heating element in the bottom drawer and use either alder apple tree chips )etc. Package like smoked salmon from BC.
-Purity products There are lots of NL all over the world who would like to have access to these products.
-Soap stone carvings
-Blue berry wine
-Bake apple wine Bake apples
-Partridge berries
-Abitibi pulp and paper mill on ebay
-Boats on ebay
-Salt cod ebay
-Lobster pots ebay
-Memorabilia ebay
-Caribou antlers
-Knives with antler handles Knives can be made from industrial hack saw blades
-Car wreck ebay
-Whale bones ebay
-Caribou antlers ebay
-Cod liver oil ebay
-Plants ebay need permission to export plants rom NL This needs to be looked at in more detail. Use sterilized soil UV lights cheap and simple method of sterilization. Better still just sell bare root save our soil!
-Patents on NL inventions and products Patents collect money forever
Sell hobby products on Ebay.

Is the math involved in sustainable forestry so difficult?

Let me see, you have so much forest, it takes so long for the forest to regrow once cut.

Ok here goes all figmental numbers

300 hectares of Forest in NL

30 years to regrow

Divide number of hectares by number of years it takes to grow and you get a sustainable forestry program number.

Voila! Cut 10 hectares a year to have a sustainable forestry industry!

Now while this is a simplistic view of managable forestry industry it points out the simplicity at which forestry management could and should be.

Now inorder for this simplistic model to be properly incorporated the forest needs to be divided into regions supported by the forestry industry.

Now there are alot of people who are paid big big bucks to figure this stuff out. I don't know for sure but with the advent of harvesters it seems like we are over cutting our 10 hectares a year thus not using sustainable forestry practices?

As for clear cutting would it kill the corporate Cyril Sneers(Abitibi, Corner Brook Pulp and Paper) to leave a band of trees 10 meters wide every 100 or 500 metres to help shelter the animals, reseed the clear cut areas, stop the flash flooding, and the precious soil errosion due to clear cutting practices. This is especially necessary for sloped terrain and may need to have special regulations to suit different terrains and soil types.

The fact is they will never do this because if your familiar with the Cyril Sneer cartoon they only care about the bottom line share holders profits and their jobs. Not to mention most of these Cyril Sneers have no interest in the future of NL. It is up to the governments voted for and representing the people to protect the peoples resources present and futures. It is up to the people to make their views and concerns known to their Government representatives, they arent telepathic you know!

Missed this one. While not one of her best the mention of article 76 law of the sea is worthy of mention.

Cross-examination BY Averill Baker "Without the dressing or gravy"
The Advertiser

Newfoundland and Labrador now produces one third of this nation’s conventional crude oil. Scotiabank Group, in their publication Global Economic Research, claims that we reached that level in 2004 and in 2006 we will climb higher with White Rose coming on stream.

The rest of the story!

http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/general/sub.cfm?source=memorials/ww1mem/beaumonthamel">href="http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/general/sub.cfm?source=memorials/ww1mem/beaumonthamel">http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/general/sub.cfm?source=memorials/ww1mem/beaumonthamel
http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/1997/exec/0409n01.htm">href="http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/1997/exec/0409n01.htm">http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/1997/exec/0409n01.htm
http://northernblue.ca/mblog/archives/183-Carnage-at-Beaumont-Hamel.html
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Feature_Story/2003/jun03/27_f_e.asp
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/firstworldwar/051806/0518062002_e.html
http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/general/sub.cfm?source=memorials/ww1mem/beaumonthamel
http://collections.ic.gc.ca/great_war/articles/somme.html
http://www.cdli.ca/beaumont/somme2.htm
http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/1996/mpa/0628n01.htm
http://www.heritage.nf.ca/cns_archives/13riggsoct05_1995.html
http://www.library.mun.ca/qeii/cns/histmilitary.php
http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-73-564-2889/politics_economy/nfld_confed/clip8
http://www.saskschools.ca/curr_content/history20/unit1/sec5/sec5_01.html
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Feature_Story/2003/jun03/27_f_f.asp

If you have a beef with England and your loss at their hands take it up with them! Stop throwing history in our faces as if Canadians had anything to do with your disgrace at the hands of Britain on the Plains of Abraham.

I find it similar in context to a conversation I had with a 90 year old Serbian spreading hate towards Croatians by rehashing their loss to Croatians during WWI and WWII. See previous blog here somewhere, probably in archives.

Why should Canadians be made pay for Quebec’s perceived disgrace at losing a battle to Britain? Just goes to show another reason why Canada needs to sever its ties with the British monarchy and abolish the Governor General and Lieutenant Governor Generals positions. Grow up Canada and get on with your own sovereignty.

Be fore warned those of you who think your meat comes from Styro foam trays this is graphic. Seal hunt protestors should be required to watch this.

Meat your meat
http://www.rrrina.com/

Labrador Newfoundland needs more political representation! Not just because of people but because of the sheer vastness, remoteness and inaccessibility of the region.

It’s a credit to those MHA’s and MLA’s who have served this area in the past. As well as those to come in the future, if we chose to remain apart of Canada?

Newfoundland and Labrador is 6 times larger than the other Maritime Provinces combined but we only have 7 members of parliament. One of which is in Labrador which is twice as large as the island portion.

Don’t get me wrong here I don’t want to further divide our already divided province geographically anyway, but rather I wish to highlight the need for reform within Canada.

Our Confederation is in dire need of an overhaul. Maybe a factor of Geographical and population could be used to determine a fair and equal representation. This would also ease the burden on those MHA’s and MLA’s who have large geographical constituencies.

If Canada isn’t willing to recognize and change this injustice then the least our province could do is give up one of the island portions of the provinces representatives to better enable Labrador MP’s to cope.

The money could be recouped from abolishing the Lieutenant Governor General which serves no purpose other than to remind us of our colonial roots. Cut the roots and grow a new tree I say starting with a sprig for Labrador in the form of another MHA. The Governor Generals House would make a fitting Premiers residence IMHO Money well spent also. (Presidents residence of the Republic of NL)

Since the additional 7-8 seats were added to Ontario our representation has become even less effective and if this precedent is to continue we will be losing even more power representation in the years to come due to out migration.

I propose splitting Labrador into two separate ridings one in the West and one in the East the coastal communities.

We could go even one better and add representatives or token none voting representatives for each of our Native communities/Cultures so as they have a real voice in the House of Commons/ Assembly.

Welcome To Labrador Metis
Micmac Federation of Newfoundland Indians
Welcome to Nunatsiavut
Innu nation

The ball is in your court Canada! You wanted us to join so badly in 1949. What are you willing to do to keep us now that our eyes have been opened to exactly what Confederation is, at least for NL?

I wouldn’t expect government/big business to go along with this change but the people of Canada with a sense of fair play and justice will. I don’t think any of these proposals are unreasonable or of the wall but rather something that a lot of the other provinces will probably agree with and want apart of.

The federal government has proposed a name change for Happy Valley Goose Bay to Unhappy. This name change goes along with their lack of action at trying to either keep our allies allied with us and at 5 Wing Goose Bay or proposing a new use for the infrastructure at 5 Wing Goose Bay.

Maybe there was nothing they could do? It may have just been a sign of the changing times with the end of the cold war? If that is the case they could have at least looked for other options and uses for the infrastructure or 5 Wing Goose Bay.

I'm thinking:
cold weather climate training area base.
American training base if they want it?
Voisey Bay nickel refining complex.
Wildlife and tourism hostel.
refinery.
Steel mill.
Government retreat.
Global Conference centre.
Leadership college.
United Nations democracy, Government, police training centre.
Cold weather testing site for cars planes etc.
Canadian space training base.
Ski doo, cross country skiing warefare school.
Move the Stephenville Pulp and Paper mill to where the wood is Happy Valley Goose Bay.
Put it up for auction on Ebay to any interested parties.
Canadian government Call center.
Little late now Gun registry. Should be abolished anyway. Forget I mention this one.
Army training base for allieds.
College for native heritage and lifestyles.
Winter warefare training base.
Infrastructure base camp for building roads in Labrador by military engineers.
Refugee camp for United nations and countries with conflicts or disasters similar to what they did in Gagetown at the cadet camp in 2000 for Bosnian refugees.
Combined forces training area.
Combined countries training.
United nations training base.
Artic tourist retreat.
Global warming college study group.
Think Tank.
Prison.
Rehabilitation centre drugs, gambling, abuse etc
War surplus stock pile. Canadian or United Nations.
Base camp for United Nations quick reaction force.
Rent base.
Garbage recycling centre.
Used tire recycling centre.

Just of the top of my head never having been to Happy Valley Goose Bay. I'm only guessing that the infrastructure is there to accomplish any of these suggestions.

Its laughable when politicians and in particular the Petroleum Pricing Office say they are looking for and monitoring the oil and gas industry for evidence of price gouging but as of yet haven't found any evidence?

They need look no further than their, our own back yard. Oil and gas in many of our remote communities is only brought in once or twice a year. In communities like Rigolet NL, gas is stockpiled in tanks during the summer to allow for the inaccessibility throughout the winter months due to ice conditions. When Gas was 1.30 on the Island and 1.20$ in mainland Canada Rigolet who had stockpiled their gas when it was .90$ was paying 1.74$ a litre. Now if this isn't irrefutable evidence I don't know what is? Other than maybe a smoking hole in the ground where a gas station used to be!
http://www.gasbuddy.com/

Now you would think that they would be semi impervious to the fluctuations in price like the rest of us, who rely on the local pump for our gas which is filled on a monthly basis depending on the volume of sales. So why then are the prices in these communities following the global market trend when their world only exists as a global market once or twice during the summer months?

The problem as I see it is there is no one to blame? You can bet that if OPEC was still dictating global market prices like in the 70's we would have someone to blame! But as it stands we have no one to blame but ourselves for allowing ourselves to become so dependant on world market pricing with our lack of refining capabilities.

This is especially apparent in these remote communities who are being priced gouged by our own people, businesses, and government for allowing this to happen, and continue to pay the salaries of the PPO out of the peoples coffers, for looking the other way?

Due to this “I don’t care attitude, until it impacts my little life” Rigolet is going to lose its one and only gas station because of these illusive price gouging practices? From there we are going to lose another native culture because of the unfair economic burden these our native people have to bear. Who will be forced to move to the metropolises where they will be ASSIMILATED and lost forever!

http://www.labmetis.org/
http://www.fni.nf.ca/
http://www.nunatsiavut.com/
http://www.innu.ca/

Email:
ppo_info@pub.nl.ca

Does anybody remember playing Pippy sticks as a kid?

I barely remember it.

Something along the lines of cricket I'm guessing. Two sticks standing straight up over a hole with another one spanning them. A bat or stick and a ball. The ball was throw to try and knock of the spanning stick but someone was infront with the bat and tried to hit the ball, If you hit the ball you had to run around the other persons sticks as many times as possible and get back on your own side to stop them from throwing the ball to knock of your spanning stick.

There was also something to do with math or adding the number of times you ran around their sticks?

Sure does sound like cricket as I know it. Was alot of fun along with hide and go seek.

I've searched the internet for this name pippy stick with no luck?

Does Prime Minister Paul Martin’s above the national average cutting/moving of NL’s federal jobs, departments, and agencies at an unprecedented rate in comparison to the national average, have anything to do with NL’s Premier Williams lowering of the Canadian flag? Premier Williams lowered the flag only as a last resort to show his our dismay at Canada’s continued policy/treatment of NL as a colony to be raped and pillaged for the benefit of the motherland Ontario and Quebec, either directly or indirectly by supporting other interest groups at the expense of NL.

It would have never come to this if the Prime Minister had lived up to his promise to begin with? So why is NL being punished for something the Prime Minister initiated by failing to live up to his promise to begin with.

Gander Weather office downsizing
http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2003/exec/0313n06.htm

Agrologists of Canada press release on planed closing of Atlantic Cool Climate Crop Research Centre.
http://www.aic.ca/agrology/pdf/nlia_newsrelease_mar1.pdf

NL gov press release Closing ACCCRC, PSC, and DFO's toxic research
http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2005/exec/0729n03.htm

NL governments press release disturbing trend federal government representation in NL.
http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2005/fin/0831n01.htm

I thought we had a program to abolish bullying on our play grounds? Maybe we need a monitor to correct this injustice?

Hello everyone.

Here is a list of all the Federal Government Parliamentarians, ready for copy and paste into your email message address window: To, Carbon Copy, or Back Carbon Copy.

The best way to go about adding these addresses into your email program is to send a message and then it will ask you if you want to add the addresses once the message has been sent? Create a new group IE: Fed Govt and voila you have all of the Federal Government Parliamentarians email addresses.

The separating titles IE: NDP, Conservative, Independent and Liberal cannot be included.

I didn’t include the Bloc Quebecois because IMHO they have no right being on the federal stage.


The titles of each group cannot be included. IE: NDP, Conservative, Independant, Liberal

NDP

laytoj@parl.gc.ca, blaikb@parl.gc.ca, daviel@parl.gc.ca, godiny@parl.gc.ca, angusc@parl.gc.ca, broadbent.e@parl.gc.ca, chrisd@parl.gc.ca, comarj@parl.gc.ca, crowdj@parl.gc.ca, cullen@parl.gc.ca, desjab@parl.gc.ca, juliap@parl.gc.ca, martipd@parl.gc.ca, martito@parl.gc.ca, masse.b@parl.gc.ca, mcdonough.a@parl.gc.ca, siksab@parl.gc.ca, stoffp@parl.gc.ca, wasylj@parl.gc.ca

Conservative

Abbott.J@parl.gc.ca, Ablonczy.D@parl.gc.ca, Allison.D@parl.gc.ca, Ambrose.R@parl.gc.ca, Anders.R@parl.gc.ca, Anderson.Da@parl.gc.ca, Batters.D@parl.gc.ca, Benoit.L@parl.gc.ca, Bezan.J@parl.gc.ca, Breitkreuz.G@parl.gc.ca, Brown.G@parl.gc.ca, Carrie.C@parl.gc.ca, Casey.B@parl.gc.ca, Casson.R@parl.gc.ca, Chatters.D@parl.gc.ca, Chong.M@parl.gc.ca, Cummins.J@parl.gc.ca, Day.S@parl.gc.ca, Devolin.B@parl.gc.ca, Doyle.N@parl.gc.ca, Duncan.J@parl.gc.ca, EppK@parl.gc.ca, Finley.D@parl.gc.ca, Fitzpatrick.B@parl.gc.ca, Fletcher.S@parl.gc.ca, Forseth.P@parl.gc.ca, Gallant.C@parl.gc.ca, Goldring.P@parl.gc.ca, Goodyear.G@parl.gc.ca, Gouk.J@parl.gc.ca, Grewal.G@parl.gc.ca, Grewal.N@parl.gc.ca, Guergis.H@parl.gc.ca, Hanger.A@parl.gc.ca, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, Harris.R@parl.gc.ca, Harrison.J@parl.gc.ca, Hearn.L@parl.gc.ca, Hiebert.R@parl.gc.ca, Hill.J@parl.gc.ca, Hinton.B@parl.gc.ca, Jaffer.R@parl.gc.ca, Jean.B@parl.gc.ca, Johnston.D@parl.gc.ca, Kamp.R@parl.gc.ca, Keddy.G@parl.gc.ca, Kenney.J@parl.gc.ca, Komarnicki.E@parl.gc.ca, Kramp.D@parl.gc.ca, Lauzon.G@parl.gc.ca, Lukiwski.T@parl.gc.ca, Lunn.G@parl.gc.ca, Lunney.J@parl.gc.ca, Mackay.P@parl.gc.ca, MacKenzie.D@parl.gc.ca, Mark.I@parl.gc.ca, Menzies.T@parl.gc.ca, Merrifield.R@parl.gc.ca, Miller.L@parl.gc.ca, Mills.B@parl.gc.ca, Moore.R@parl.gc.ca, Moore.J@parl.gc.ca, Nicholson.R@parl.gc.ca, OConnor.G@parl.gc.ca, Obhrai.D@parl.gc.ca, Oda.B@parl.gc.ca, Pallister.B@parl.gc.ca, Penson.C@parl.gc.ca, Poilievre.P@parl.gc.ca, Prentice.J@parl.gc.ca, Preston.J@parl.gc.ca, Rajotte.J@parl.gc.ca, Reid.S@parl.gc.ca, Reynolds.J@parl.gc.ca, Richardson.L@parl.gc.ca, Ritz.G@parl.gc.ca, Scheer.A@parl.gc.ca, Schellenberger.G@parl.gc.ca, Schmidt.W@parl.gc.ca, Skelton.C@parl.gc.ca, Smith.J@parl.gc.ca, Solberg.M@parl.gc.ca, Sorenson.K@parl.gc.ca, Stinson.D@parl.gc.ca, Strahl.C@parl.gc.ca, Thompson.M@parl.gc.ca, Thompson.G@parl.gc.ca, Tilson.D@parl.gc.ca, Toews.V@parl.gc.ca, Trost.B@parl.gc.ca, Tweed.M@parl.gc.ca, VanLoan.P@parl.gc.ca, Vellacott.M@parl.gc.ca, Warawa.M@parl.gc.ca, Watson.J@parl.gc.ca, White.R@parl.gc.ca, Williams.J@parl.gc.ca, Yelich.L@parl.gc.ca

Independent

Kilgour.D@parl.gc.ca, OBrien.P@parl.gc.ca, Parrish.C@parl.gc.ca

Liberal

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Newfoundland and Labrador Senators

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Make your voice be heard if you want to save Canada!

I would also recommend sending CC to a news outlet to ensure accountability and gain publicity.

Remember these people while they deserve your respect and recognition for their hard work and dedication, are still your employees. They represent you on a local, Provincial, National and International level. And you as their employers have a reponsibility to ensure they are representing your views, ethics, and morals of this great country of ours.

Edited until I can better make my point. Or find better maps to highlight this misrepresentation. Having trouble finding maps with longs and lats and north pole.

Artic circle is centered on this one. Just can't see the north pole.












Artic circle is left of center here this is the normal map seen everywhere. News Weather.

Great news! http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2005/tw/0923n04.htm

The provincial roads that have been added to the national highway system are as follows:

* Pitts Memorial Drive, Route 2, from the Trans Canada Highway to the Port of St. John's;
* A portion of Portugal Cove Road from the Outer Ring Road to St. John’s International Airport;
* Route 340 from the Trans Canada Highway to the marine terminal in Lewisporte;
* Route 350 from the Trans Canada Highway to the Port of Botwood;
* Lewin Parkway in Corner Brook from the Trans Canada Highway to the Port of Corner Brook;
* Route 430 from the Trans Canada Highway at Deer Lake to the St. Barbe ferry terminal;
* The Trans Labrador Highway from the Labrador west boundary to the southern Labrador boundary.

This is the removal of a major stumbling block to the realization of a fixed link with our bretheren. It just needs to be followed up and acted upon now. Words are cheap pavement saves money and lives. Lets make sure the new TLH gets a top coat quickly before water leaches down through the subgrade and deteriorates the back bone of the road the subgrade.
http://www.cshrp.org/english/index.html
http://www.comt.ca/reports/sumrep.pdf

I should point out that the misplacement of the north pole on this map makes NL look much further North than it really is. The North pole should be placed at the middle top and not 3/8 from the left top?

Conquering and holding ground

It is a long time tradition that in order to conquer and hold ground you have to have men or women on the ground.

I’m getting frustrated at the lack of response from government with email and phone campaigns.

It it becoming painfully apparent that a tangible presence on the ground is required.

Now how do we go about making a visible presence on the ground? Something that can’t be ignored with the delete or block button.

We could have picketers with placards in front of government buildings.

People could put signs in their windows.

People could put bumper stickers on their cars.

People could put signs on their lawns with web addresses and or political phone numbers.

People could wear base ball caps with slogans.

People could wear t-shirts with slogans

People could fly flags with slogans.
Stop the Fishing

People could put signs up on the side of the road.

People could paint signs on rock out croppings.

People could have their children support or defend them.

People could organize Rally’s. All you need to do is do some preliminary prep work name a date advertise. Plan it they will come. Name a date.

The only solution I can think of to the road ruts and hydro planing dillema other than digging up the entire road bed or fixing drainage is to use concrete as a top coat running surface. Especially since global warming is going to make roadsurfaces even more susceptible to surface pressures and indentations. IMHO this may be more economically feasible than thickening the road surface pavement. Hydro planing may be corrected in the short term by putting cutting in drainage trenches to allow for road surface run off where feasible.

In some of the southern US coastal states they have grooves either built into or cut into the road surface on an angle to traffic flow to allow for run off. This can be very dangerous for motorcycle enthusiasts but does get the water of the running surface of the road.

Unsure here but I know concretes strength can be improved by adding fiber glass strands to the mix, maybe something similar can be done for pavement?

I'm baffled that a place fondly known as "The Rock" would have a problem with subgrade? Which is why grooves are forming on the road surface IMHO.

The TCH is a federal responsibility if i'm not mistaken? If this were the states and people's lives were being endangered and lost because of poor design, quality control, or maintenace you can bet you a@@ that someone would have filed a civil law suit or sued the responsible parties by now. Big brother can be a formidable opponent. But a widower's sorrow and avengance can be even more powerfull when you consider their just cause, especially if it is a combined effort.

Smarten up Ottawa or your going to have some law suits coming your way.

Update:
While I'm on the topic of TCH safety. I'm astounded that NL doesn't have animal fences along the TCH like they do here in central Canada?
Someone needs to challenge Ottawa on this lack of safety due to all of the moose accidents and deaths due to a lack or nonexistance of these valuable human and animal life saving fences.

Yes Premier Williams and Staff!

Don't give away NL to these corporate flunkies. In the same breath I would also like to ask all NL'ians to offer their support, ideas and solidarity to the people of Stephenville and the Port aux Port peninsula.

I've made several suggestions with referenace to NL job wealth and creation. I'm going to reiterate some of these now with reference to Stephenville and the Port Aux Port peninsula area.

Some uses for the Pulp mill value added wood products IE: chip board, Veneer plant. Veneer plant there is probably enough wood on the bottom ther to keep them going for a year or two not to mention logs on the bottom in Deer Lake and Grand Lake.

Bog farming. Whether that is drying out of bogs and packaging and selling of peat moss products. Value added campfire fire bricks, Plant pots etc.
Blue berry bog farms, Partridge berry bog farms, Cranberry Bog farms etc.

Close all of the VLT's and put a Casino either in Port Aux Basques or Stephenille. IMHO best bet would be to move the ferry to Stephenville and put the Casino in Port aux Basques. Reason I say move ferry is because Stephenville has more dock yard space and is an ice free port.
Port Aux Basques being at the end of the road needs a draw ticket and a casino would work well in this respect. Closing VLT's and opening Casinos, makes it a more controled enviroment for gambling addiction control. Plus has more of a draw ticket for attracting tourists especiallyand the end of the road.

Grand Falls Windsor could and should think about job sharing or work sharing to help the Stephenville workers? Stephenville could even take along their newer pulp machine as an incentive to replace the number seven machines closing. Better it go to Grand Falls Windsor than China.

Open a MUN french university satellite campus. If nothing else it could be filed with foreign students. It could even be an extention to the college that is already there.

Moose farms. Just because we as NL'ians have access to moose a year, doesn't mean there isn't a market for Moose meat and Moose by products in a world market through farming Moose. This isn't a new idea there are Elk farms Buffalo farms Lamma farms etc. Once again we are destined to become Salt water Moose Cowboy's. As with my post about Cod farming Salt water cowboys. If nothing else we will become self sufficient in food production. Take care of food and shelter and your taking care of the people essentials.

Same thing could be saidand done for caribou farms.
Goat farms would also work goats don't need grass they will eat anything including laundry of the line.

Prefab housing factories. Palletized homes, garages and sheds from NL lumber the most hurricane resistant lumber there is! With Stephenvilles abundance of cleared and paved space from the American base alot of the ground work has already been done. Plus most NL'ians have experience in construction.

Pet farms this could be either through a combination of many small ones or one several larger ones. Not Puppy mills as they are doing in some places. The Newfoundland and Labrador dog would make a great start here. With a pure bred pet running from 1000$ to 100,000$ thousand this could be a great capital builder. Organize dog shows and expose's to attract interested parties and build awareness. Fly ball, rodeo etc LOL once again Salt water pet cowboys. reminds me of a commercial I once saw cat herders.

The Ski mountain in Stephenville could and should be twined with Marble and Goose bays Ski Mountains. One pass gets you a access to three ski mountains.

Fish farms Salmon, trout and cod. Salt water Cowboys once again. I know I can't wait to get my ten gallon hat and rubber cowboy boots!

Encourage people to turn their hobbies into a business. Combined selling power through larger market access with co-ops or guilds will help these small businesses alot here.

Have a commercial Moose hunt?

Introduce Deer into NL Mule deer and white tail.

Encourage more outfitters to set up shop mail order would be an intrigal part.

Pet tourism or pet friendly tourism. IE: Pet play areas parks etc

Seniors complexes all amenities taken care of security. Like they have in Kelowna.

Now is the time to upgrade the connection between Stephenville route 480 and bucans route 370. This would also be a great improvement to our one route access across the island for disaster planning, alternative routes, plus lower fuel costs. While your at it you may as well complete the missing 5 km between Bucans 370 and Howley 401.

Update:
Ebay as a means to break out of monopolies and find greater markets. You could even put the mill on Ebay tongue in check of course.

Anyway this is all rehashing of what I've mentioned in more detail in previous posts. So for more details and links check archives.

http://www.town.stephenville.nf.ca/
http://www.thegeorgian.ca/
http://journaux.apf.ca/legaboteur/
http://www.heritage.nf.ca/society/portauport.html

Seal farms

Use factory slaughter ships to humanely kill and process seals like every other food source animal.
NL Stock exchange either brick and motor or virtual online.

Recycled tire mulch fire wood/pellets

With only one remaining link (Railroad disbanded) across the island portion of Newfoundland and no roads across the entire portion of Labrador our emergency preparedness is a one lane street. (100 car ferry)

If a bridge gets washed out on the island portion of the province it will be divided. Badger bridge, Bishops Falls bridge, Pynns brook etc.

Put stock piles of now defunct Bailey(Acro) bridges in strategic locations if not already done. Bridges will be useless in the event of a flooding river some sort of cable car or expropriate ski lifts could be used.

Train local militia in emergency preparedness. Bailey (Acro) bridge construction.
Plan for transport of military to island portion of NL boats, planes, ferries etc
Connect the remaining 5km of road between Bucans and Howley as an alternate route to get across Island if bridges get washed out.
Connect and upgrade the dirt road from Red Indian lake Bucans to route 480.
Plan for mass exodus of remote locations in Labrador and Newfoundland, only accessible by ferry.
List of Additional ferries on standby with times and locations on hand in file.
Make high ground safe havens rally points IE: Bucans plateau, Goose Bay?
Stockpile military tents and refugee supplies on Island portion of province.Water, shelter, food, medical etc.
Plan to use now defunct rail bed as secondary route. Recces and upgrades required for bridge classification and road bed.
Some of the threats I perceive would be aTidal wave need to evacuate to high ground. Tsunami evacuate to high ground, Toxic spill, Volcanoes, Fire, Disease, Terrorist attacks, Polluted or contaminated water, Hurricane, evacuate to try and get out of its path and into sheltered locations. Floods dividing cutting of access to close medical centers with one link across province. Hydro dams breaking due to earth quakes Main Dam Junction Brook bridge etc.
Rallying points.
List of Buses available for mass evacuation.
List of Boats available for mass evacuation.
List of Heavy equipment available.

Update:
Return the full Weather office to either Gander or somewhere else in NL where we can get real forecasting not word of mouth forecasting.
Make a record of Ham radio net works and users to be used in the event of a communications breakdown. Cuba has a set up like this and it works quite well.
Oil spill readiness?!! Stock pill Bags of Bog to be used as oil absorbant.
Emergency broadcasting system.

Here is a translated link to a documentary done by Mare TV about the Island portion of NL.
I originally read about this on The Gander Beacon.
Hope this works.

Cod, Atlantic | Gadus morhua | Newfoundland and Labrador population

Status: Endangered
Last Examination and Change: May 2003 (Reassigned)
Canadian Occurrence: Atlantic Ocean
Status Criteria: A2b
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Reason for Designation: Cod in the inshore and offshore waters of Labrador and northeastern Newfoundland, including Grand Bank, having declined 97% since the early 1970s and more than 99% since the early 1960s, are now at historically low levels. There has been virtually no recovery of either the abundance or age structure of cod in offshore waters since the moratoria imposed in 1992 and 1993. Threats to persistence include fishing (now halted), predation by fish and seals, and natural and fishing-induced changes to the ecosystem.
Status History: The species was considered a single unit and designated Special Concern in April 1998. When the species was split into separate populations in May 2003, the Newfoundland and Labrador population was designated Endangered. Last assessment based on an update status report.

Cod, Atlantic | Gadus morhua | Laurentian North population

Status: Threatened
Last Examination and Change: May 2003 (Reassigned)
Canadian Occurrence: Atlantic Ocean
Status Criteria: Met criterion for Endangered, A2b, but designated Threatened because stocks within this unit have displayed an ability to recover from overfishing and conservation measures have been instituted.
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Reason for Designation: Cod in the Northern Gulf of St. Lawrence and along the south coast of Newfoundland comprise an assemblage of stocks within which there is considerable mixing. They are currently at low levels as a group and overall have declined by about 80% over the past thirty years. However, there is evidence that current levels of abundance are not unprecedented for cod along the south coast of Newfoundland, and the population there has been stable since 1974. Threats to persistence include fishing (now halted in the Northern Gulf), predation by fish and seals, and natural and fishing-induced changes to the ecosystem.
Status History: The species was considered a single unit and designated Special Concern in April 1998. When the species was split into separate populations in May 2003, the Laurentian North population was designated Threatened. Last assessment based on an update status report.

Cod, Atlantic | Gadus morhua | Arctic population

Status: Special Concern
Last Examination and Change: May 2003 (Reassigned)
Canadian Occurrence: Arctic Ocean
Status Criteria: Not applicable
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Reason for Designation: Cod in Arctic waters occur mostly in a few coastal salt lakes, and numbers of adults may be no more than a few thousand. Uncertainty with respect to the actual number of locales and populations makes it difficult to assign any higher status, but the known populations are sensitive to human activities. Poorly regulated fishing is a potential threat.
Status History: The species was considered a single unit and designated Special Concern in April 1998. When the species was split into separate populations in May 2003, the Arctic population was designated Special Concern. Last assessment based on an update status report.

Cod, Atlantic | Gadus morhua | Maritimes population

Status: Special Concern
Last Examination and Change: May 2003 (Reassigned)
Canadian Occurrence: Atlantic Ocean
Status Criteria: Not applicable
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Reason for Designation: Cod in the Southern Gulf of the St. Lawrence, across the Scotian Shelf and into the Gulf of Maine comprise a heterogeneous assemblage of stocks that are at low levels of abundance as a group. These levels are not unprecedented for the cod in the Southern Gulf, Southwest Scotian shelf, Bay of Fundy and George’s Bank, but those on the Eastern Scotian Shelf, are at historic lows and have continued to decline in the absence of directed fishing. Overall, cod in the entire region have declined 14% in the past 30 years, and have demonstrated a sensitivity to human activities. Threats to persistence include directed fishing, bycatch in other fisheries, natural predation, and natural and fishing-induced changes to the ecosystem.
Status History: The species was considered a single unit and designated Special Concern in April 1998. When the species was split into separate populations in May 2003, the Maritimes population was designated Special Concern. Last assessment based on an update status report.

Why should NL be the only ones who have to suffer at the expence of foreign overfishing, due to the lack of control by Canada and creative geneology assignments?

Was going to call this Cod Geneology.

With Foreign Draggers, Dredging the Nose, Tail and edges of the Grand Banks.








PEI, NS, NB and Quebec catching on the other side NFLD truly is a monkey in the middle, dancing to the music box of Canada.

Fisheries laying waste to endangered fish stocks: WWF-Canada Report

ST. JOHN'S, Sept. 20 /CNW/ - A groundbreaking report released today by
World Wildlife Fund Canada, (WWF-Canada), says many foreign and some Canadian
fishing trawlers on the Grand Banks off Canada's east coast are deliberately
catching species at risk, including cod, and are throwing tens of thousands of
tonnes of other species caught in their nets overboard, dead. These practices
are threatening the future of the offshore fishery and putting at risk even
more species of marine life according to WWF-Canada.

The rest of the story.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2005/20/c0936.html

Why ask for rebate checks as a stop gap measure that only relieves fiscal stress long enough to get conditioned to the higher prices.

They are just putting off your poverty until you no longer feel like fighting. Its the same as Make work projects. If you can put money on the table for one year maybe next year they will either be Out migrated or won't have the intestinal fortitude to complain again.

If your going to ask for anything back from your yes YOUR resource revenue taxes and income taxes back, ask for a hand UP not out (migration)! In the long term.

http://www.offdarock.com/opinionCove/Message.asp?ThreadID=20

Goose Bay could have a native content College. Carving, Language, Outdoors life, Culture, history etc. Doesn't have to be just native students either. Would be really cool if it were on of those Geodesic domes. It could be made to look like an igloo!

Stephenville Could have a french College. An addition to the Bay St Georges community college.

How hard is it to open a school? Find some professors write or borrow some lesson plans, Power point, enlist some students voila!
A french college in NL would probably require a fair amount of foreign students to begin with.
Oh I'm guessing but accreditation would also be an issue. Respected Professors would help here, they would and could even bring along their lesson plans.

Maybe NL needs a little better system to give NL graduates more time to either find a job or start a new business and get established in a new business?
I'm not saying write their loans of, but just give them more time to find or create work in NL.

Allow them to just pay of the interest or something like that?

We helped pay in part for their education why shouldn't we go one step further and help them get, make, or create work for themselves in NL! They are the future and educated future at that.

Wind mill Farms outside the box




Instead of building great big unsightly farms of wind mills on the landscape why not subsidize personal wind mills that individuals erect on their property and homes?

They would already be tied into the grid or have access to the grid.

They would make people less dependant on the one grid system.

In the event of a power outage people would still have a limited supply of power.

The incentive could be in the form of giving feeding back into the grid a certain percentage of their power production.

Maintenance would be performed by individuals.

If anyone has ever seen these wind mill farms littering the landscape they would think twice about supporting them.

The issue of environmental damage due to changed wind patterns wouldn’t be an issue.

http://www.nooutage.com/

Canadian Tire Wind mill

Alien invasion

What this world of divided interests and back grounds needs is a good alien invasion to unite us!

Even the admittance of aliens would go along way in uniting our divided peoples on this our world.

Software universal translators have come along way in uniting and helping us understand each other and the different interest’s religions and back grounds. The internet is probably the most innovative uniting tool of all.

Closed Captioning also has helped a lot but hasn’t been used to its full potential IMHO.
Read my Eradicate illiteracy in the world blog.

Moose lights!



Mercedes Benz has lights that shine into the ditches. It is an extra light switch that when turned on shines lights into the ditches on either side of the road. It might even be connected to the high beam light switch but I’m pretty sure it was a separate switch. It’s been a while since I’ve driven a Mercedes.

I imagine that fog lights could be adjusted to accomplish the same thing on any car?

A moose from back on at night looks like a man bent over!

Update:
Ontario Govt brochure how to avoid wildlife accidents.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2005/20/c1481.html

- Brake firmly if an animal is standing on the road, or about to cross.
Never assume the animal will move out of the way.
- Never swerve suddenly. This could cause your vehicle to go out of
control.
- Scan the road ahead from shoulder to shoulder. When you see wildlife
beside the road, slow down and pass carefully as they could suddenly
bolt onto the road.

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